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♪ tonight ♪ tonight [ applause ] >> thank you very much. it's 10:00 p.m. here on the east coast. we begin tonight keeping them honest, with a race against time. a race between a government that says it's abiding by an agreement to end months of bloody conflict, and opposition forces who say that is a flatout lie. caught in the middle, hundreds of civilians pleading for the international community, including the united states, to step in and stop a massacre. although no journalists are being allowed in, these are the videos coming out of syria tonight, reportedly showing tanks, snipers and artillery
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units pounding away at neighborhoods, surrounded by thousands of troops, all this while simultaneously observers from the arab league are arriving in damascus to verify that president bashar al assad is keeping his promise to dial back the violence, start talks with the opposition and let aid workers lend a hand. before showing this next video, i really do want to warn you, it is very hard to watch. you may want to turn away but it underscores the sharp contrast between the two different versions of what is going on here. this is video claiming to show the aftermath of an artillery strike today on the city of homs. there are more than just the one body you see here, but it's simply too gory to show. as always, we cannot independently confirm the facts of this video because the syrian regime will not let us see for ourselves, but take a look. [ gunfire ]
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>> these are the streets of a neighborhood. the gunfire in homs is reportedly non-stop now. some witnesses say it seems as if government troops are basically racing to wipe out the opposition before outside observers can arrive. the worst of all of this appears to be happening in the neighborhood called baba amir, just southwest of the central part of homs. you can see as we fly in here. it's not clear whether arab league observers will see this tomorrow, but keeping them honest, just a couple of weeks ago, president assad denied that there was anything to see. >> we don't kill our people.
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no zbooft government in the world kills its people unless it's led by a crazy person. for me as president, i became president because of the public support. it's impossible for anyone in this state to give order to skill. >> that was president assad december 9th, talking to abc's barbara walters. his own people as anderson found out from a rare western reporter who managed to sneak into the country, his own people knew better even as he said that. >> people are terrified in a lot of the towns outside syria. the economy has ground to a standstill. there are daily violent house-to-house raids, activists and protesters, too scared to leave their houses during the day, so they live life on the run, living in safehouse, moving from safehouse to safehouse. life is not as normal. in fact, it feels like war-time
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era there. >> and ramina, when you hear the syrian leader, the dictator of syria saying "we're not ordering the deaths of people, there are no house-to-house searches, people aren't being arrested and killed in their homes," what do you think? you've seen it for yourself. >> yeah, on some level it's quite laughable. i was watching an assad interview, and i was laughing at the same time, screaming at the television, because of course what's happening there is absolutely undeniable. it's all around you. you can't escape it. >> since then, it appears that it's only gotten worse for the people living in homs. that arab league delegation we mentioned at the top arrived in syria this evening. the members are at least expected to go to homs tomorrow. we don't know if they will but the opposition puts little stock in the arab league and is calling for action from the u.n. including military protection, if they can get it. we spoke earlier tonight with opposition member abu rami. >> well, the situation here in
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homs is so bad in baba amr area in particular is, they are using the armor tanks and anti-aircraft armor, storming this area, storming this neighborhood. there are more than ten houses completely destroyed, and there were many bodies under the rubble there. there is now genocide taking place in this city of homs. >> do you have enough medical care for the people who are injured or any medical care for the people who are hurt? >> five days ago up to now we don't have any medical supplies, any medical tools or equipment. also, there is a shortage of medical assistance, no doctors, there is no doctors enough.
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many of the hospitals changes into prisons. most of the injured people are staying on the streets until they die. that's what is going on here in homs. >> what do you want the world to know about what is happening in syria right now? >> this regime is not honest. this regime is just want to kill everyone who oppose him, everyone who say for assad to step down. we are calling to direct intervene from the whole organization, and the international community to intervene here in syria and topple this bloodshed that's going on in syria, in homs in particular. there are massacres that are happening every day. we are appealing to world organizations to see what's going on here. we don't have the media here to make you, the outside, watching what's going on so i would like to thank you so much to make the
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syrian people's voice going outside through your free media, and explaining to you what's going on here. we want you to intervene. we want to you help us. we are suffering day by day, and people, they're dying, children, women, every single person here is targeted and maybe will be killed tomorrow. >> let's dig deeper now. time.com intelligence columnist and former cia officer robert baer joins us. also robin wright, author of "rock the casbah," robin, let me start with you, people are using big words like massacre and again side to suggest that whole sections of the population are being wiped out even as the inspectors are arriving. are they overstating it or does that seem to be true? >> this has gone on for nine
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months now. this is something that's not been a short experience and the scope of it gets worse and worse despite the fact the president denies he's ordering any brutality against his own people. we're getting close to the point we can use words like that, when the united nations claims there are at least 5,000 people who have been killed. there are some estimate that is 70,000 syrians have been arrested. some of them who have been released have talked about really brutal torture. the scope of this is now getting really horrendous. >> bob if you have a president who wants to say against a backdrop of pictures like this that nothing's going on, that nothing is wrong, how much faith would you have these inspectors from the arab league will even get to see the right areas? >> they're not going to see anything. he's buying time with the inspectors. this regime feels it's under threat, existential threat. it's a minority regime, aloites, 10% to 15% of the population and i've been talking to them today. they said we're going going to
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give up bashar al assad. we're never going to give up fighting, we'll die to the last person. we've seen a sectarian war nothing like we've seen in the middle east, at least in my time. >> explain what you mean, bob. >> well you've got the sunnis are dug in. they're preparing for a civil war against the aloites who control the military and the security services. the aloites are a branch of shia islam but they're looked at by many sunni as apostates, fallen away. so it makes this a much more difficult conflict than even libya, yemen or egypt. because these are sectarian divisions and as the fighting goes on, it gets worse and worse. the fact is, and we have to acknowledge the opposition in the rebels are killing regime figures, they are singling out aloits and murdering them and
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vice versa so this is very much a two-sided war which we can't forget. >> robin, the opposition here wants the other governments of the world to step in and do something about this. why can't they? what's keeping the u.n. and other countries from stepping in and saying, enough already? >> with libya, you had first a consensus among the arabs themselves and then it went to the united nations and then to nato. we haven't gotten through the first step. the arab league is still trying to negotiate with the assad regime. they're nervous, the arabs in general about setting a precedent again as in libya, and that the west will get involved militarily, something they don't want, given the u.s. intervention particularly in iraq. they don't want to set this pattern so there's reluctance for that to happen. the international community doesn't want to replicate what happens in libya. there's a nervousness nine months in or a year now into the arab uprisings about what will happen next, who will take over.
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one of the big questions is, if assad does fall as many of us believe that he eventually will, what replaces him? that's not clear. you have a real problem today between the various opposition forces. they do not speak with one voice. they're not using one set of tactics. you have the local coordination committees, trying to engage in peaceful civil disobedience, get people out on the streets who are changing. and then you have the army defectors who launched over the last month, particularly an increasingly effective visible campaign and the two sides do not have a common strategy or vision and that's a real source of concern. we don't know what happens next. >> bob, let me jump in on that point that robin just raised there about the military defectors. many of whom we understand are actually in the neighborhood that's being hammered so hard. they're trained fighters. they want to fight back, as somebody who has been involved in intelligence work, does that open any cracks for trying to
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say look, there's a way to take advantage of the fact there are military people on both sides of this, to somehow get around the regime, to somehow co-opt this thing and quiet it down or is the world going to stand by and just wait until a lot of people get killed? >> well, what the state department would like is for bashar al assad to step down, have some sort of committee replace him as much as happened in egypt, but with the army what we're seeing is the beginning of cracks in it. many of the rank and file, the officers from less important issues are sunni muslims, undoubtedly no one can tell for sure, these are the people defecting, taking their arms. last night i talked to the muslim brotherhood, the syrian muslim brotherhood who are based outside the country and they said they're desperately trying to get arms in to these defective units, they bring them in through lebanon or the coast but so far they haven't been successful. so i think we're looking at this
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conflict as getting worse before we find a solution. >> all right, robin wright, bob baer, thank so much for joining us. i'm telling you folks, this is happening on the other side of the world. it may seem like it has nothing to do with you but these are big events this holiday week. thanks for joining us, you all. the let us know what you think. we're on facebook, twitter and google plus. up next, the raw politics of courting a reluctant king maker in iowa. that's candidate rick santorum in hunting orange, you may not recognize the other guy, congressman steve king, he's a big deal in iowa and everyone wants to know what he's thinking with just days to go until the caucuses. i will ask the congressman why he has not made a pick among the republicans. later on also, the mystery of a little girl's disappearance, and the new reward being offered to anyone who can help find her.
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main of us are taking it easy this week between the holidays but the republican contenders are storming into iowa for support in next week's caucuses. the most recent polls still show ron paul, mitt romney and newt gingrich pretty much tied for the lead there, but with only days to go, many in the hawkeye state have their eyes on a known kingmaker especially when it comes to the strong conservative vote. u.s. congressman steve king went pheasant hunting with rick santorum today. look at him there, just as he has with other candidates and once again, he ended the outing with kind words but no endorsement. with time running short, i spoke to the influential congressman. congressman, you're the kind of guy that people listen to in iowa, and they're listening really hard right now butter' not picking anyone. what does that mean? do you not like any of these candidates? >> it means more that i actually like all of these candidates,
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and it is a very difficult decision, a large percentage of iowans haven't decided. i'm among them. i thought i would come to a conclusion in september or october. it's nearly the end of the december, and we're within a week of the caucus. and i've not gotten to that pint where my head and my heart have come together. and when i have, i'll jump in with both feet. >> why have you not decided? >> there are a number of reasons, one of them is how the field is spread out and another part of this is as the months have unfolded and i've watched the lack of will in this congress to tighten down on this spending, we're burning up our political capital discussing whether we're at $28 trillion or $26 trillion. europe is melding down incrementally, greece is ready to default. and i've not heard yet from a presidential candidate, the deep conviction on how to get us out of this impending economic disaster we're in. i want to know when the budget will be balanced, when we'll pay off the first dollar on the net debt and like to hear about a
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transformative tax policy. i thought i might get that for christmas and it didn't quite happen. >> you've raised a really interesting point. in our polls what people are most concerned about jobs. the idea of worrying about the deficit and spending is way down on the list, compared to that. so if you can get the candidate who says what you want for your nod, is that a candidate who can win the election? >> that is one of those questions, but you know, from my standpoint i don't want to appear i'm bargaining for some piece of policy i want and using that as a leveraging point. i really instead want to see that a candidate has that conviction and understands this, and you know, we're electing a leader and that leader should be looking over the horizon and taking us where we need to go. the public wants jobs, yes, and businesses have to be able to make a profit before they can pay wages. that's all part of it, but meanwhile if neither democrats nor republicans show their will to tighten down on our spending and get to us a balanced budget,
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we could march off into a financial debacle, but we need a leader to lead us away from that, to lead us away from the abyss and i'm not yet convinced that any of them have that vision and are able to inspire the american people to take us where we need to go. >> your alternative, though, if you don't pick someone, if people like you, don't decide who you want, is probably to allow president barack obama to be re-elected. i've heard an awful lot of conservatives say they're willing to compromise to stop that. what about you? >> well i'm willing to compromise to stop that. i look at what he's done with our finances and extra $1 trillion a year in red ink, each year he's been in office at a minimum and i look at him delivering us obama care, that's got to go. we've the go to repeal obama care. i think all of the presidential candidates on the republican side have taken the oath to do that. i'm worried about the appointments to the supreme court. another four years of barack obama and i don't think we'll recognize the constitution in my lifetime again. those are all big things but it's not an easy decision.
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you don't just get to look at one side of the card and say i'll play this one or that one. most of it takes a subjective judgment and who actually can see in that crystal ball? i wish i could. >> in the end, do you think you're going to speak up on this? because you've said before one thing that's very important to you is that iowa remain important in this process, and i imagine one of the ways it remains important is by people like you speaking up and saying, i'm picking someone i think should win, now back him. >> well, iowans do need to do that, and i would not have said months ago that was my intention if i didn't think that that was also a responsibility that i have. but i've also said that i have to come to a conviction before i could take such a position. i just challenge all iowans, come out to the caucus, make your decision, even if you make it late it's better than not making it. i think this will be a caucus where there are thousands of iowans that make up their mind right in in the precinct caucus, listening to the speeches given on behalf of each of the candidates.
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the undecided caucus-goers might hear something in that speech, whoever is the best organized, whoever has the best and the most respected speakers at the many, many locations that we have might just be the surprise of the night on the caucus, and perhaps i'll get around to that conviction yet. i just want to make this confession that no one has accused me of being an equivocator over all these years but tonight i feel like one. >> well we'll see if you reach that decision, and i'm sure you'll come tell us first it if you do. representative steve king, thanks so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. more on the raw politics with former newt gingrich secretary rich galen, also democratic strategist maria cardona, who was a senior adviser to hillary clinton's 2008 presidential campaign. maria, let me start with you. you must be delighted to hear republicans talking this way. >> i've had so much fun during this process, tom, it's unbelievable, but you know the representative steve king brings up an interesting point.
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it's funny, because at first he dodged your question saying he wasn't endorsing anybody because he liked all the candidates so much and in the next breath he basically says that none of them are good enough for him and that's why he hasn't endorsed. it underscores the lack of enthusiasm among all gop voters for any one candidate both in terms of substance, in terms of their own history, in terms of whether they're going to be able to beat president obama or not. >> okay, you raise an interesting point there about lack of enthusiasm about the candidates but rich, i got to tell you, traveling over the country there is no lack of enthusiasm for beating barack obama. it seems to me that what they're really doing right now, particularly conservative republicans is playing a bit of a game of chicken. they're trying to say how far can we get to the right with the candidate we ultimately choose and still win. is that a fair assessment? >> i think that's right, tom. i've traveled with steve king four years ago. he endorsed fred thompson to whom i was the senior
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adviser. and i think that might have something to do with his lack of enthusiasm. >> that worked out really well, rich. >> but the point i think is that republicans, conservatives and moderates may not have their first choice as the nominee but their last choice to be president is still barack obama, and as we move through this process, i think it will become clearer and clearer and the polling shows in the battleground states and elsewhere, enthusiasm among republicans and republican leaning voters is much higher than it is amongst democrats. and that's what happens at the end of a first turn when you have the kinds of problems -- some of this were the president's making, many of which were not. but we've become the 11:00 society fp we expect all crimes to be solved by 11:00, and all problems to be solved in an hour. >> you know, maria, that's one thing rich raises that is a valid point. i think if i were a democratic
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leader right now, the biggest thing i would be saying is do not chill the champagne yet, because we're very early in this process. and some chaos on the republican side, some confusion doesn't really moon anything next november, does it? >> there's no question about that. and i think that president obama and this white house will be the first ones to tell you that they're running as the underdogs because regardless of who the gop candidates are right now, and you know, regardless of how flawed most democrats think that they are, the problem is that this president is running against the economy and right now, the economy is not where we would all want it to be and the president will be the first one to say that. i think what's important here, going into this election cycle, the debate on the payroll tax cut i think was incredibly valuable for one reason. it started to define the debate about what this election is going to be about between a president and a party who is squarely in the court of the middle class, fighting for middle class and working class
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families, and a party who all they've done all year is fight for millionaires and billionaires. and frankly, the house republicans did such a good job of fighting that debate for us as we move into 2012. and i think that's going to help the enthusiasm on the democratic side and we've already seen it. >> maria, we've all read the talking points. we'll move on from that but i get your point here. we have to move on. rich, let me ask you something about virginia right now and newt gingrich. is he toast now? to not even make it on the ballot in virginia, the issue isn't that you don't make it on the ballot as much as it what it says about your organization, if you're not organized to get on the ballot in vir virginia, you can't win. >> it's hard but clearly not impossible. it has to do with the age-old commonwealth battle between northern virginia and southern virginia but the fact is that we may see another indication of this lack of organization on the 3rd, because the prevailing theory is that you've got to be organized to be able to get your
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people out to a caucus in iowa. you got to have the lists. you got to have people as steve king was saying, he's really a decent guy. you have to have someone prepared to stand up and talk for you. you got to know who is going to show up and i'm not sure that newt's kind of, you know, telephone call campaign having a conference call every day is going to substitute for being able to have built an on the ground operation, and it showed in virginia, i mean that's 50 delegates that he cannot compete for because he's not going to be on the ballot. >> maria, quick question. would you rather have the republicans pick a candidate sooner so you know who your man is running against or would you rather have them keep mulling it over longer? >> i think it doesn't really matter in terms of what the final outcome is going to be for the democrats. because they're going to be ready. this president is going to be ready to run against whoever comes out of the process but a drawn out process i do think is helpful, because the more infighting there is amongst the
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republicans the more i think it shows where this president is going to be. >> before you get too far down that track let me just remind you that the fight between clinton and obama went all the way to june and guess who got sworn in the next january. >> rich, you took the words out of my mouth. there were an awful lot of republicans gloating over that right up until election day when it didn't work out. >> we were all unified. >> rich galen, and good luck as we head into the new year. >> thank you so much. still ahead, new controversy surrounding newt gingrich's marriages. he claims his first marriage ended because his wife wanted a divorce but court documents obtained by cnn tell a different story. we have the exclusive details. also ahead, crime and punishment, a new reward for information about a toddler who vanished just days before christmas. it's an amazing and heartbreaking story, what we've learned is coming up.
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let's catch up on some of of
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the stories we're following tonight. isha joins us again with a 360 bulletin. >> a car bomber got through six security checkpoints and killed five people at the interior ministry in baghdad. at least 39 others were wounded. in san bernardino, california, police have arrested a man accused of shooting and paralyzing a u.s. soldier at his homecoming party. the victim, christopher sullivan, earned a purple heart after surviving a suicide bombing in afghanistan a year ago. georgia court documents obtained by cnn cast doubt on newt gingrich's claim that his first wife wanted the divorce in 1980. the files show jackie gingrich asked the judge to deny the divorce. still the gingrich campaign says he was simply following her wishes. and it was a very merry christmas for actor matthew mcconaughey and his girlfriend, brazilian model camilla alvarez. they are engaged. the couple has two children.
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tom he tweeted he'd ask her to marry him. i guess she said yes because he tweeted it. >> do you think he proposed to her over twitter. do you suppose? >> i think she was sitting across from him, he was like "hey, want to tie the knot." >> i like that, that was a dramatic re-enactment. very well done. magnificent. >> you get it all. as the end of 2011 approaches it's a chance too look back at the big moments in the news from pop culture to politics and so much more. we do it every year, put it together in a big special and this saturday, new year's eve at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern, write it down, stick it to the refrigerator, we bring you that special, all the best, all the worst of 2011, here's a preview. ♪ >> the word crazy keeps coming >> the word crazy keeps coming to mind, a crazy year.
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>> i think it was one of those roller coaster years. >> talk about unexpected, right? >> this year's been all over the place. >> the final liftoff of "atlantis." >> this year was weird, wasn't it? >> i think it's been a tough year for the country. >> i agree. >> the iraq war is coming to an end. >> let's start with the biggest, best story of 2011. ♪ >> the wholesale return of american troops from iraq after more than eight years of combat, more than 4,000 lives lost, tens of thousands wounded, whether you supported the war or not, this end was a long time coming, and even with afghanistan still in play, it was welcome relief for many military families. but some of the happy reunions may have been stifled by the biggest, baddest story
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confronting everyone once again. >> what was the number one concern that everybody had was jobs. everybody knew someone who had lost their job. >> we'd been hovering between 9.2% and 9.1% for the past couple of years. you know, that has defined 2011. >> a late year dip into the 8% range helped a bit but despite a lot of ambitious talk from politicians about plans for recovering the millions of jobs lost in the recession, unemployment lines remain long and frustration levels high. >> the retail slump continued. >> it's horrible not to be able to pay for yourself, to have a job, to work at what you're good at. >> it feels like, to a lot of people, the game is rigged or they just can't get ahead. and there are some very severe imbalances in this country. >> at least there is this, if misery loves company, more americans seem to be warming to the notion that the whole world is in this economic mess together. >> we need each other.
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we need each other to buy each other's products and make it all work. >> biggest blow-up goes to the middle east where the arab spring movement ignited passions across the region. >> i don't think the middle east went crazy. we're just starting to pay attention. >> i think what we're seeing happen in the middle east is extraordinary. >> it's quite thrilling, and where is it all going to end? >> where indeed. that's just a little taste of all the best, all the worst of 2011, it's airing saturday new year's eve at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern. and afterwards, make sure you ring in 2012 with anderson and kathy griffin 11:00 p.m. at times square. new year's eve on the only place
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to be that night, on cnn. just ahead, her father says she vanished from her own bed. it's a chance for you to help locate a missing little girl. stick with us. tonight police are offering a big reward, trying to find the missing toddler, ayla reynolds. and an apparent murder/suicide on christmas. new information about the man who police say killed six members of his own family. stick around. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your stuffy nose. [ deep breath ] thank you! that's the cold truth! so i used my citi thank you card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? we talked about getting a diamond. but with all the thank you points i've been earning... ♪ ...i flew us to the rock i really had in mind. ♪ [ male announcer ] the citi thank you card. earn points you can use for travel on any airline, with no blackout dates.
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tonight in "crime and pub punishment" police in maine are offering $30,000 to anyone who can help them find ayla reynolds, a toddler who disappeared from her own bedroom just a few days before christmas. her father reported her missing december 17th, saying he put her to bed the night before and found her room empty in the morning. investigators conducted dozens of searches, including the family's home and nearby pond and hiking trails, but police still do not know what happened to her. and at a news conference today they offered that big reward in hopes that it will produce
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someone with concrete information. >> initially we had a lot of leads come in, as you might expect, but as the days and the investigation continued on, they dropped off somewhat. they were still coming in, they're still coming in, and again, we're in hopes in offering the reward that those folks who might not have contacted us with information will do so now. >> that's the police chief on this case, who also says he believes this is the biggest reward ever offered in maine in a missing person case. let's get more on this mystery with deb feyerick. >> reporter: it's friday night, december 16th. 20-month-old ayla reynolds is ready for bed, wearing her green polka dot pajamas with the words daddy's princess on the front. her father, justin dipietro, puts her to sleep. he says it's the last time he saw his daughter. the next morning, ayla was gone, vanished sometime during the
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night. dipietro had been carrying for baby ayla for weeks, after her mother, trista reynolds, checked herself into a ten-day rehab program. after completing rehab, reynolds filed court papers to regain custody of her daughter. the papers were filed the day before ayla was last seen. police say both parents are fully cooperating in the case, and say they have no suspects yet, but they are certain ayla was taken from her home on that friday night. >> we believe that someone was involved in taking her out of the house, and that's where the focus of this investigation has turned. >> reporter: two days after ayla's disappearance, trista reynolds tells various media outlets, including hln's nancy grace that she worried her daughter was not safe with her father. the day after ayla's mother gives these interviews, justin writes a letter to law enforcement. he says he has no idea what
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happened to his daughter, nor does he know who's responsible for her disappearance, adding, i will not make accusations or insinuations toward anyone until police are able to prove who is responsible for this. meanwhile, the search for ayla widens. police received nearly 200 tips. civilian volunteers joined state, local and federal authorities in over 80 searches of the area, including a nearby river, a pond, and several hiking trails. cadaver dogs are brought in. still, no sign of the missing girl. >> is she okay? is she laying somewheres dead? is she safe? is she cold? is she being fed? is someone watching her? >> bring her home. just bring her home to us. i want my baby home. i want her home. >> and on christmas day, prayers instead of presents for ayla. it's been over a week since the
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blond haired blue eyed toddler was last seen, and these cases, time is the enemy. but police continue their search, hoping a new $30,000 reward will bring them closer to finding little ayla. deborah feyerick, cnn, new york. digging deeper into this case we bring in forensic psychiatrist helen morrison. thanks for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> whenever a child this young goes missing this long, bad news seems to be just around the corner. >> you're absolutely right about that. most people understand that the first 48 hours are critical in any investigation, and it's been so long now, and the question is, was she taken? who might have taken her? what would the motive have been, and where is she now? bringing in cadaver dogs is not unusual, that's pretty normal as
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far as protocol is concerned, but the question is, with all of those leads, why hasn't there been someone named a person of interest? >> you raise an interesting point there, but the fact that there hasn't been a person of interest named against this backdrop of hundreds of leads. >> right. >> does that mean police don't have one or they're just not talking about it? >> they may not be talking about it. i think one of the things that police have learned over the years is that not talking tends to keep their investigation tight, and it doesn't allow a lot of information to leak. if a person of interest thought that they were going to be named, the question is what would they do in that type of a situation, but there have been so many statements about did this little girl walk out on her own. highly unlikely. was it someone in the house at the time? because there was another infant
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in that same bedroom. so why was she taken, if she was taken, why not the other child? the speculation ranges from it was somebody on a revenge kick, did somebody need to have money owed to them? the speculation has gotten pretty wild. >> almost always in cases like this, unless i'm mistaken, helen, it's somebody either in the family or close to the family, at least police look at them very, very carefully. is it in the police interest right now to keep family members talking to each other about this, to see if something comes up or is it in their interest to try to keep family members away from each other to kind of play people against each other, to either find a suspect or to rule them out. >> i think you're on the right track about that, but in this family, it certainly appears that they have no need to be kept apart. they are apart. they've not been communicating on the basis of their own wishes.
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there's a tremendous amount of anger on the part of the maternal side of the family, and we've heard nothing from the paternal side of the family. so again, is it something that the police are doing? police always look at the intimate family. they are the people who have opportunity. they have exposure, and no one knows what motives might be, but family and intimate partners are always the first to be looked at. >> all right, helen morrison, thank you very much for joining us on this difficult, difficult case. i so hope we get some kind of decent news to come out of it. but thanks for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me. ahead, another deadly tragedy for a connecticut family this christmas. fire rips through their home, killing five people, including three young girls. why firefighters say they weren't able to go in and rescue them. also police catch up with a group of teens accused of stealing thousands of dollars in cash and merchandise and you will not believe what they did to get the cops' attention. you must stay around.
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another christmas day tragedy. an add exec her parents and daughters were killed. the flames were so intense, firefighters were unable to go inside to rescue the others. here's a business tip. if you want a future in crime, don't brag about it online. pittsburgh police arrested four teens. they found one of them after one of them peefted pictures on facebook posing with the loot. up next, number five on anderson's ridiculist 2011 countdown.
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we have been counting down the top ten ridiculists of the year, and tonight we're down to five. a journey back to may when stephen cobert first made the list. >> i have to admit i struggled tonight whether other not to add this person to the list. i decided in the end enough is enough. tonight we're adding a man by the name of stephen cobert to the list. now, at first i must admit i had forgotten who stephen colbert is. my team of officials tell me i've been on stephen cobert's show, but i have no memory of that. sean hannity put a picture of me
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on air. changes the meaning of what i said. mr. cobert took issue and accused me of copying him. he went so far as to create something called an absurdu chart. >> you are nothing but a thief, because your stegment is a ripoff of my on notice board, and for stealing my idea i'm putting you and your ridiculist on my absurdu chart. >> the very idea that i'm copying you is simply ridonkulus. which is the original name we came up with for the ridiculist. you have been copying me for years. i give you exhibit a.
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here you are on the cover of outside magazine, like you ever go outside. where could you come out with being on the cover of outside magazine? yeah, here i am one year ago, i'm on the cover of outside magazine. not since i woke up disorient e smelling of toner at kink cos have i been more embarrassed. exhibit b. here's your ben & jerry's ice cream flavor. very good, i'm told. wonder where you could have gotten that idea. could it have been from my ben & jerry's ice cream? came out years ago, dry white toast with vanilla pieces, swirl of gin and just a hint of tonic.
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it has a brisk business in kenna bunk port late july to early august. your chart was funny, particularly when you used peanut butter to affix my picture to an actual chart. i thought that was pretty inspired. >> there you go. boom. how does that taste, anderson? i assume like peanut butter. i didn't even check to see if you had a peanut allergy. the ratings feud is on. >> i know 23 i was one of these cable anchors i would try to keep a ratings feud with you, it would get attention, be mutually beneficial. i'm not willing to do that, i'm willing to let bygones be bygones. it's not worth it for me.
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